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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/23/2023 8:36 PM
and wont hate you or be uncomfortable
8:37 PM
she knows you had good intentions with that too
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~Moonlight~
Just yesterday I learned that what I try to do to help people is also fucked up-
Blue [Ranger's host] 4/23/2023 8:38 PM
You don't have to share what you don't want to, but based on what you have already shared you seem pretty stressed out in general and I'm suspicious the self-deprecation you're doing to yourself is deserved. Since it's making you nervous about Mallory already, you might want to go get checked out by a therapist. Tulpas are great and all but they ain't therapists
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No therapists, and actually sharing this may help, im an all around manipulator, even at 8 years of age I still manipulated people with ease for my own advantage, to this day I find it hard to trust my own judgement for that reason, and just yesterday I learned that manipulating people to help themselves is also wrong, which I had been doing to try to help people learn things they struggled with. I'm only 15 I cannot go to a therapist by myself and I really don't want my family to know, all I wanted from this was a good friend and I got two best friends (Mallory and the only person I told about her) and a lot of friends from here.
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~Moonlight~
No therapists, and actually sharing this may help, im an all around manipulator, even at 8 years of age I still manipulated people with ease for my own advantage, to this day I find it hard to trust my own judgement for that reason, and just yesterday I learned that manipulating people to help themselves is also wrong, which I had been doing to try to help people learn things they struggled with. I'm only 15 I cannot go to a therapist by myself and I really don't want my family to know, all I wanted from this was a good friend and I got two best friends (Mallory and the only person I told about her) and a lot of friends from here.
Now I'm not claiming that you have this but these sounds like symptoms of antisocial personality disorder
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I mean, that doesn't sound too far off
2:19 AM
I'm trying to change
2:19 AM
But yeah I was extremely antisocial
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hello, this is something I've been curious about. is there a relation between tulpa wonderlands and "shifting"?
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Rin 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 4/25/2023 10:07 AM
Like “reality shifting”?
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Rin 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0
Like “reality shifting”?
slr! but yes, referring to that!
12:57 PM
if they aren't related in any way, do those 2 concepts at least intersect in some way? I keep finding some connections between the two
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Not that i know of, do elaborate please (edited)
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/25/2023 1:00 PM
afaik reality shifting is how you shift the perception of the external world, while wonderlanding is purely internal, imagination
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It's unrelated
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Dev
Not that i know of, do elaborate please (edited)
here is a description I found from another server:
There are many versions of you that exist, and for every decision you make there is a different you. The same goes for every moment that has taken place in the universe, resulting in many different outputs. And yes, that means somewhere out there you are doing whatever you can imagine right now, in a universe that could have entirely different physics. The idea of reality shifting is that you can shift your awareness to any one of these versions (of your consciousness) that you desire to experience.
sorry for not being able to describe it on my own, I'm as unfamiliar about it and I don't want to ignorantly explain it
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
afaik reality shifting is how you shift the perception of the external world, while wonderlanding is purely internal, imagination
makes sense, thanks for the response!
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Stuff like this (supernatural or occult) we have a channel for, #metaphysics
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noted, I didn't know. will keep that in mind!
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Do people usually experience dizziness when attempting to front?
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Lucilyn: maybe if you're new to learning possession or switching, or focusing too hard (like making blood run through your head) (edited)
6:11 PM
but otherwise no
6:12 PM
fronting doesn't define anything on its own btw, it's an umbrella term, you should specify what exactly you're doing when asking about "fronting" (edited)
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Reisen
fronting doesn't define anything on its own btw, it's an umbrella term, you should specify what exactly you're doing when asking about "fronting" (edited)
Good point. I meant switching. Been experiencing a weird fuzziness accompanied by dizziness, though I haven’t been focusing on it particularly hard.
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Lucilyn: well I wouldn't say it should make you dizzy, but we personally got tired really quickly when we first started switching and it only went away when we switched back with our host, so maybe some similar things like that could happen for someone (edited)
6:26 PM
but that still went away for us gradually as we spent more time practicing being switched, idk the exact timespan but between a couple weeks and a couple months before we never experienced that tiredness again (+ could go to sleep switched and wake up still switched)
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Hm interesting, okay. Thanks for the input!
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Milk
Do people usually experience dizziness when attempting to front?
We do sometimes get extremely dizzy or dissociated when switching
8:10 PM
I guess it's normal
8:10 PM
If it starts to bother you too much i'd say take a break though or try a different mindset when switching
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/29/2023 8:27 PM
we get it too, but we dont really go ahead and train it so it can last longer without it happening
8:27 PM
usually its fine to do it again after a little while
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Milk
Do people usually experience dizziness when attempting to front?
A long kiss goodnight 4/30/2023 6:52 PM
For our switching experience, it depends on how much we dissociated during our switching ritual. Sometimes we feel really zoned out and a bit dizzy, sometimes not at all. Most of the time we don't feel super dizzy
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/30/2023 7:03 PM
ive never felt dizzy while switching
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is the first time switching worse than the rest? for me it was very suddenly abrupt and a bit shocking for me to have switched with kelly randomly that one time (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:05 PM
it was abrupt for me too and i dissocciated a bit, but it wasnt scary
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and i cofronted which is probably not a good idea idk
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:06 PM
because she didnt really do anything but look around
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A long kiss goodnight 4/30/2023 7:06 PM
A first switching experience can be heightened by expectations and excitement. I know some people felt their first experience felt more "magical" for lack of better words. I can't say the same for my first intentional switch or even my first accidental switch. I can however say my first switch with our eyes open was magical feeling, but when we did it a second time it just wasn't the same
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:06 PM
exactly the same thing here (edited)
7:07 PM
it felt much more like watching someone else do things than it has after that
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do you get dizzy when you think of yourself?
7:08 PM
just don't get dizzy, there's no link between personality/identity and the INNER EAR
7:08 PM
stop filling discussion with your silly placebos!
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:09 PM
i get poppy ears when we have switched/possessed recently
7:09 PM
but thats just muscle stuff
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poppy ears? like the flower?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:12 PM
yes
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:12 PM
we sell them afterwards
7:12 PM
good side hustle
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stop trolling
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shield got shielded
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:13 PM
gotem
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/30/2023 7:13 PM
shieldem
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i do get ligma sometimes
7:13 PM
when switching
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:13 PM
yeah that happens
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Lucilyn: but yeah most random things that occur when switching are either placebo or a result of you like messing with your body on accident (focusing too hard and etc.) shaking when switching is cringe (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
yeah that happens
what's ligma
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:14 PM
ligma balls
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
ligma balls
wait
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Lucilyn: trolls can't feed on trolls (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:14 PM
you're making it too easy
7:16 PM
the poppy ears and other facial muscle stuff just happens and i dont really care about if its placebo or not, i dont really focus too hard either
7:16 PM
sometimes it doesnt, sometimes it does
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Lucilyn: "is unnecessary" I guess is how I should put it (edited)
7:17 PM
any random quirks you experience aren't actually necessary to switching
7:17 PM
for whyever they might occur
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
sometimes it doesnt, sometimes it does
do you know updog
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/30/2023 7:17 PM
no
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🚪🤡 #lounge
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ask what it is
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You’re all going to get sent to silly jail fr
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Milk
You’re all going to get sent to silly jail fr
response to your tulpa question: i am silly jail
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Reisen
Lucilyn: but yeah most random things that occur when switching are either placebo or a result of you like messing with your body on accident (focusing too hard and etc.) shaking when switching is cringe (edited)
it didnt feel like placebo tho? maybe it was i dont know
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Lucilyn: I meant placebo about what needs to happen with switching, causing symptoms (edited)
7:40 PM
more than believing symptoms are there that aren't
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placebos always wave massive flags that say 'HEY! I'M A PLACEBO!'
7:44 PM
so you're right to assume that if it didn't 'feel' like a placebo, it 100% cannot be a placebo
7:45 PM
and you should 100% always trust your feelings in tulpamancy, so you can end up like those people that 'feel' like their tulpa hates them or doesn't want to talk to them and it impedes their progress
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ummmmm
8:09 PM
?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/30/2023 9:27 PM
…aren’t placebos often used in the opposite way Like the control group of those medical experiments with the sugar pills
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shierudo (they/them] ↩️
Reply to: placebos always wave massive flags that say 'HEY! I'M A PLACEBO!'
9:28 PM
the point of a placebo is to trick you into thinking something works a certain way or that something will happen
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/30/2023 9:30 PM
no, placebo is a band
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/30/2023 9:30 PM
I think that’s what magic crystals are. You believe this rock you hold will make you more confident, and so you feel more confidence
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/30/2023 9:32 PM
should i watch john wick 4? (edited)
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/30/2023 9:33 PM
this is tulpa questions
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/30/2023 9:33 PM
yes
9:33 PM
that was a tulpa question
9:33 PM
because im a tulpa
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A long kiss goodnight 4/30/2023 9:33 PM
I agree, this seems to have wondered off topic
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/30/2023 9:34 PM
😅 😂
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/30/2023 9:35 PM
wasn’t what I was talking about relevant?
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A long kiss goodnight 4/30/2023 9:35 PM
What you said is fine, the John wich 4 comment is a little ways past the topic
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/30/2023 9:36 PM
yeah
9:36 PM
I would like to try to discuss the placebo thing they were talking about, though, possibly.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/30/2023 9:37 PM
its tulpa-questions-2 though 😦
9:37 PM
What did you want to know about placebos?
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